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I wouldn't be surprised if that was including all of her autos that proc her vitals as entirely true damage and only counting Lunge as physical, for example. If you've just been ulted by her and she uses it well then the proportion of true damage you're taking compared to physical will go up significantly, but it's a single-target ult and even in that worst case scenario, physical damage is still a significant portion of damage total. It's worth mitigating with items.
Various Felonies NA - 3 years ago. And now, now we pay the Price. There will be a support, who's passive Slows any champion hit once, Stuns third hit, and knocks up on the fifth, but only if they Touch Three walls before auto-attacking.
I Sense a Jungler who is the Brother of Lee Sin, Can Do, a Divine master of the Monk's art, who's ultimate stretches his leg across half of the map, and kicks the enemy team over the edge.
Who needs two teams anyways? Zuom EUNE - 3 years ago. The irony is that rito fixed lee sin, and the vocal lee sin playerbase whined until they brought him back.
Plus her heal if she kills her target. You're comparing her to Yasuo who is massively hated by the League community and Tryndamere who has arguably one of the most broken kits in the game currently.
Remove her slow and she's not useless, she still has extremely high damage, sustain, mobility, and a low cooldown stasis. Saianna EUNE - 3 years ago. Fiora isnt a duelist, Fiora is an assassin whose damage pattern is spread out over seconds instead of 0.
Other than her Riposte, there is nothing about her that really gives the idea that she is a duelist. That only way she can kill a tank in that little amount of time is if the tank has no items and she has six. Or if she has her AD items, ults, Q's in and autos for the instant kill. If you have ever gone up against a Fiora as a tank, you would know. But I'm pretty sure you've never seen it so you're crying heresy. Ult, Q, Auto is only two strikes.
That's two vitals at most. The only way she's going to kill you in two hits is if she has close to AD. DeusVult NA - 3 years ago. I can't believe this is getting upvotes. You do realize her title is literally "the grand duelist," right? While I don't think a champion's subtitle necessarily defines what they are in game Shen has two eyes, kappa , Fiora's title is suitable. It's amazing what passes as an "assassin" according to Boards, now a days. They put the same thing for Xerath, what's your point?
Garen's title could be "the Massive Douchebag" and it wouldn't change what he actually is ingame. I don't know why Fiora players insist the title means anything. Yes she needs it, perhaps the amount can be lowered slightly but she does need it. Without it she has no chance of fighting a champs like tryndamere or other duelist-y champions. Besides, its a narrow skill shot its really not that hard to dodge, you just need to actually try doing that instead of complaining.
The actual changes Riot needs to do is to lower her base damages but increase her scalings, that way she cant build tank and do retarded damage. Riposte can absorb any type of damage and essentially stop hard hitting abilities and you're even rewarded with a stun if you block an immobilizing CC.
Why should a person be punished for not forcing their damage onto during riposte and get hit by a crippling disable? Darkomantis NA - 3 years ago.
Because without it high auto attack characters would just destroy her, therefore she needs something to be able to fight them, and seriously its only 1. Also you have to keep in mind that during the duration she cant move or attack, meaning you really shouldn't have a problem re-positioning So yes, she requires against dueling champs because shes supposed to be able to out duel other characters, what would be the point of making a dueling character if they're a shitty duelist?
Now, im not saying shes not over-tuned, she is, you're just focusing on the wrong aspect, and that aspect is she can be too tanky with too much damage. Shes supposed to be a glass canon character and nerfing the way her abilities work hurt people who play her glass canon so what needs to happen, like i said before is to lower her base damages and increase her abilities scalings.
The Pumpkin Kinq NA - 3 years ago. Because without it high auto attack characters would just destroy her, therefore she needs something to be able to fight them,. Why does absolutely need to fight high auto attack characters? That right there is a problem in itself. Fiora follows the same patterns as who specializes in high mobility and ability absorption.
Should get an attack speed slow just because he can't deal with and? If Fiora needs to deal with high attack speed champions then her Riposte should be reworked back into the parry it was before the rework where she did truly counter AA champions with an ability that only blocked an auto attack.
As I already stated in the OP, this is early game, meaning the laning phase, where you come into lane with no boots and will only be able to get Tier 1 boots up until the end of the laning phase. Early game is an early decider especially since the game is still snowbally.
Yes, you can essentially "dodge it" but any competent Fiora can be able to land their Riposte by using the bladework spell that gives Fiora 50attack range and a 1-second slow. You will not have enough movement speed to be able to just "dodge it" in a trade. What exactly makes what I'm saying a wrong aspect? I'm just pointing out something that people are possibly overlooking.
Half the things you listed wouldnt do a lot in a slapfight with a Trynd who himself reduces enemy AD. This feature makes Riposte do something against aa champs with no skills worth blocking. She was given this mini-game to challenge her, but its not a challenge to abuse it.
You can all-in easily because of it, and if you can't all-in the champion because of it, you get very significant poke with almost no possible retaliation from the large majority of the cast. Completing her R is supposed to be difficult, but its practically guaranteed if you aren't stupid about it. At the very least her passive should have a much longer CD and only begin AFTER the last one goes away, whether its via procing or the enemy laner waiting it out. There's no answer to her for so many different champions right now.
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Switch to Chronological View. Comment is below threshold She's a melee adc. If you take away her trading power. You take away her viability. Comment is below threshold Charles Barklius NA - 3 years ago She's got plenty, and builds far more tanky than before The AS slow is extraneous power that doesn't really fit, you shouldn't be rewarded that much for mistiming Riposte This.
A Miss Fortune NA. Comment is below threshold Fiora has too much utility to be an ADC, if you actually looked at her kit it's amazing how Riot could of ever allowed her to pass the PBE. Comment is below threshold She has a slow and a conditional stun.
How is that tons of cc? Unless you count death as a form of CC then i agree. Comment is below threshold She has two slows one potentially a stun and an Attack Speed debuff. Comment is below threshold And she gets blown up by anything touching her if she goes full ad.
Comment is below threshold You do realize Fiora can literally delete the front line then kill the carries since their peel is dead? Comment is below threshold Fiora doesn't 1v5 without being super fed or having some serious outplays. Comment is below threshold Dude. Hydra is enough to snowball Fiora. She's worse than Riven. Comment is below threshold You can build armor and QSS.
Comment is below threshold Armor doesn't help me survive true damage. Comment is below threshold But then you're wasting an item slot for QSS instead of much needed resistances or health. Comment is below threshold How is completely invalidating Fiora's ult not useful to you?
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